Currently, the video is being graciously hosted by Jon Torresdal on his blog, so let’s hope that the bandwidth holds up.

Get it here.

While Mule has many features in terms of connectivity and integration, NServiceBus provides platform interop only. One could say that this is a product of the different backgrounds I and Ross come from.

On the other hand, the saga capabilities in NServiceBus for handling long-running processes are considered to be BPM functionality on the Java side of the industry, and as such, Mule does not have them.

In terms of other enterprise features like management and monitoring, Mule is more mature, but NServiceBus holds its own in terms of high availability and actually surpasses Mule with the grid and scale-out capabilities of its distributor.

Anyway, I think it’s about time each of these parts was explicitly described so that companies already invested in Java ESB tools will know what they’re getting with NServiceBus.

Until then, I hope this podcast describing the full spectrum of NServiceBus, from top level SOA services to in-the-weeds transaction management, will provide more information about what it is and why you might want to use it:

Deep Fried Bytes, episode 49 – Getting the right message about NServiceBus with Udi Dahan.

Comments most welcome.

What’s New

The quickly approaching next release of NServiceBus will be version 2.0 and is a big step from 1.9. After 2 betas and 2 release candidates, this version has had a longer stabilization period than any of the versions so far (1.4-1.9). Many of my clients are already using it in production and are very pleased with it. I’ve heard similar reports from others in the community (now with over 500 members in the discussion group). There have been almost 10,000 downloads since the version 1.9 release and in every country I visit I meet people using NServiceBus in new and interesting applications.

With my appearance on Hanselminutes, many in the mainstream .NET industry have started taking a look at NServiceBus. That, and the fact that Microsoft’s Oslo technology has now taken a very data-driven turn (rather than its original service-oriented direction).

Interestingly enough, I’ve been hearing more and more reports about people using NServiceBus as a developer-friendly API on top of other technologies. This includes BizTalk and even Neuron. I never thought that people would take the pluggability of NServiceBus that far.

So, what is NServiceBus?

Well, it’s a service bus, y’know, like an ESB – just an open-source one.

All kidding aside, in a nutshell, it gives you an easy way to integrate transactional messaging into your applications.

One of the reasons why you might want to do that is so that you don’t lose messages containing valuable data when IIS recycles your AppDomain, every 15-20 minutes (as I wrote about in this MSDN magazine article).

There are many other nice things in there, like the ability to unit test your service layers and long-running processes but you can read more about that here…

Documentation

One of the biggest differences to NServiceBus in this release is documentation.

A lot of work has gone into the NServiceBus.com site to help developers hit the ground running with NServiceBus, including the more advanced aspects of transparent scale-out with the distributor and multi-site communications.

There is still work to be done in this area but feedback so far has been extremely positive (except for some grumblings from certain old-timers saying that if they could figure it out by themselves, well, you know the rest).

In Closing

If you’re building a distributed enterprise .NET system, take 5 minutes, download it, and see transactional publish/subscribe messaging working on your machine without any big heavy-weight middleware.

www.NServiceBus.com

While I tend to put search in the query camp in the when keeping the responsibility of commands and queries separate, and often recommend that those queries be done without messaging, there are certain types of search where messaging does make sense.

In this post, I’ll describe certain properties of the problem domain that make messaging a good candidate for a solution.

Searching is besides the point – Finding is what it’s all about

Remember that search is only a means to an end in the eyes of the user – they want to find something. One of the difficulties we users have is expressing what we want to find in ways that machines can understand.

In thinking about how we build systems to interact with users, we need to take this fuzziness into account. The more data that we have, the less homogeneous it is, the harder this problem becomes.

When talking about speed, while users are sensitive to the technical interactivity, the thing that matters most is the total time it takes for them to find what they want. If the result of each search screen pops up in 100ms, but the user hasn’t found what they’re looking for after clicking through 20 screens, the search function is ultimately broken.

Notice that the finding process isn’t perceived as “immediate” in the eyes of the user – the evaluation they do in their heads of the search results is as much a part of finding as the search itself.

Also, if the user needs to refine their search terms in order to find what they want, we’re now talking about a multi-request/multi-response process. There is nothing in the problem domain which indicates that finding is inherently request/response.

Relationships in the data

When bringing back data as the result of a search, what we’re saying is that there is a property which is the same across the result elements. But there may be more than one such property. For example, if we search for “blue” on Google Images, we get back pictures of the sky, birds, flowers, and more. Obvious so far – but let’s exploit the obvious a bit.

When the user sees that too many irrelevant results come back, they’ll want to refine their search. One way they can do that is to perform a new search and put in a more specific search phrase – like “blue sky”. Another way is for them to indicate this is by selecting an image and saying “not like this” or “more of these”. Then we can use the additional properties we know about those images to further refine the result group – either adding more images of one kind, or removing images of another.

Here’s something else that’s obvious:

Users often click or change their search before the entire result screen is shown.

It’s beginning to sound like users are already interacting with search in an asynchronous manner. What if we actually designed a system that played to that kind of interaction model?

Data-space partitioning

Once we accept the fact that the user is willing to have more results appear in increments, we can talk about having multiple servers processing the search in parallel. For large data spaces, it is unlikely for us to be able to store all the required meta data for search on one server anyway.

All we really need is a way to index these independent result-sets so that the user can access them. This can be done simply by allocating a GUID/UUID for the search request and storing the result-sets along with that ID.

Browser interaction

When the browser calls a server with the search request the first time, that server allocates an ID to that request, returns a URL containing that ID to the browser, and publishes an event containing the search term and the ID. Each of our processing nodes is subscribed to that event, performs the search on its part of the data-space, and writes its results (likely to a distributed cache) along with that ID.

The browser polls the above URL, which queries the cache (give me everything with this ID), and the browser sees which resources have been added since the last time it polled, and shows them to the user.

If the user clicks “more of these”, that initiates a new search request to the server, which follows the same pattern as before, just that the system is able to pull more relevant information. When implementing “not like this”, this performs a similar search but, instead of adding to the list of items shown, we’re removing items from the list shown based on the response from the server.

In this kind of user-system interaction model, having the user page through the result set doesn’t make very much sense as we’re not capturing the intent of the user, which is “you’re not showing me what I want”. By making it easy for the user to fine tune the result set, we get them closer to finding what they want. By performing work in parallel in a non-blocking manner on smaller sets of data, we greatly decrease the “time to first byte” as well as the time when the user can refine their search.

But Google doesn’t work like that

I know that this isn’t like the search UI we’ve all grown used to.

But then again, the search that you’re providing your users is more specific – not just pages on the web. If you’re a retailer allowing your users to search for a gift, this kind of “more like this, less like that” model is how users would interact with a real sales-person when shopping in a store. Why not model your system after the ways that people behave in the real world?

In closing

If we were to try to make use of messaging underneath “classical” search interaction models, it probably wouldn’t have been the greatest fit. If all we’re doing at a logical level is blocking RPC, then messaging would probably make the system slower. The real power that you get from messaging is being able to technically do things in parallel – that’s how it makes things faster. If you can find ways to see that parallelism in your problem domain, not only will messaging make sense technically – it will really be the only way to build that kind of system.

Learning how to disconnect from seeing the world through the RPC-tinted glasses of our technical past takes time. Focusing on the problem domain, seeing it from the user’s perspective without any technical constraints – that’s the key to finding elegant solutions. More often than not, you’ll see that the real world is non-blocking and parallel, and then you’ll be able to make the best use of messaging and other related patterns.

What are your thought? Post a comment and let me know.

I’ve gotten some questions about my DDD presentation there based on Aaron Jensen’s pictures:

Yes – I talk with my hands. All the time.

That slide is quite an important one – I talked about it for at least 2 hours.

Here it is again, this time in full:

You may notice that the nice clean layered abstraction that the industry has gotten so comfortable with doesn’t quite sit right when looking at it from this perspective. The reason for that is that this perspective takes into account physical distribution while layers don’t.

I’ll have some more posts on this topic as well as giving a session in TechEd Europe this November.

Oh – and please do feel free to already send your questions in.

Take a listen.

My article on “optimizing a large-scale Software+Services application” has been published in the April edition of MSDN Magazine.

Here’s a short excerpt:

“We had to juggle occasional connectivity, data synchronization, and publish/subscribe all at the same time. We learned that we couldn’t solve all problems either client-side or server-side, but rather that an integrated approach was needed since any changes on one side needed corresponding changes on the other side.”

Continue reading…

Dennis asked this:

There are different design choices in a SOA, even when you already have identified the services. I have a simple example that I would like to share:

Imagine a order-to-cash process. One part of that process is to register an order. Suppose we have two services, Order Service and Inventory Service. The task is to register the order and make a corresponding reservation of the stock level. I would be pleased to have the groups view on the following 3 design options (A, B, C):

A.
1. The “process/application” sends a message (sync or async) to “registerOrder” on the Order Service.
2. The “process/application” sends another message (sync or async) to “reserveStock” on the the Inventory Service.

B.
1. The “process/application” sends a message (sync or async) to “registerOrder” on the Order Service.
2. The Order Service sends a message (sync or async) to “reserveStock” on the the Inventory Service.

C.
1. The “process/application” sends a message (sync or async) to “registerOrder” on the Order Service.
2. The Order Service publishes an “orderReceived” event.
3. The Inventory Service subscribes to the “orderReceived” event .

On the whole “already identified the services” thing – naming a service doesn’t mean much. It’s all about allocating responsibility, and until that’s been done, those “services” don’t give us very much information.

Business Services

If we were to view this example in light of business services, and look at the business events that make up this process, maybe we’d get a different perspective.

Three business services: Sales, Inventory, and Shipping.

In Sales, many applications and people may operate, including the person and the application he used to submit the order. When the order is submitted and goes through all the internal validation stuff, Sales raises an OrderTentativelyAccepted event.

Inventory and Orders

Inventory, which is subscribed to this event, checks if it has everything in stock for the order. For every item in the order on stock, it allocates that stock to the order and publishes the InventoryAllocatedToOrder event for it. For items/quantities not in stock, it starts a long running process which watches for inventory changes.

When an InventoryChanged event occurs, it matches that against orders requiring allocation – if it finds one that requires stock, based on some logic to choose which order gets precedence, it publishes the InventoryAllocatedToOrder event.

Sales, which is subscribed to the InventoryAllocatedToOrder event, upon receiving all events pertaining to the order tentatively accepted, will publish an OrderAccepted event.

Orders and Shipping

When Inventory receives the OrderAccepted event, it generates the pick list to bring all the stock from the warehouses to the loading docks, finally publishing the PickListGenerated event containing target docks.

When Shipping receives the PickListGenerated event, it starts the yard management necessary to bring the needed kinds of trucks to the docks.

What else is possible

I could go on, talking about things like the maximum amount of time stock of various kinds can wait to be loaded on trucks, subscribing to earlier events to employ all kinds of optimization and prediction algorithms, having a Customer Care service notifying the customer about what’s going on with their order (probably different for different kinds of customers and preferred communication definitions). Obviously, we’d need a Billing service to handle the various kinds of billing procedures, whether or not the customer has credit, pays upon delivery, etc.

It turns out that many business domains map very well to this join of SOA and EDA.

What an ESB is for

When we have these kinds of business services primarily publishing events and subscribing to those of other services, you don’t need much else from your “enterprise service bus”. All sorts of transformation, routing, and orchestration capabilities don’t come into play at all.

In all truthfullness, those bits of functionality are really just a historical artifact of their broker heritage.

Don’t get me wrong, sometimes a broker is a nice thing to have – behind a service boundary in order to perform some complex integration between existing legacy applications.

Just keep that stuff in its place – not between services.

Complex Event Processing

We can look at how Sales transitions an order from being tentatively accepted to being accepted as requiring event correlation around InventoryAllocatedToOrder events. This isn’t exactly “complex” in its own right. If there were some kind of CEP engine that did this for us out of the box, it might be a possible technology choice for implementing this logic within our service.

As we add more concerns, like time, we may find new ways to make use of this engine. For instance, if the time to provide the order to the customer is approaching, we may choose to split the order into two – accepting one for which we have all the stock allocated, and leaving the second as tentatively accepted.

Summary

While it is difficult to move forward on service responsibility without discussing the events it raises and those it subscribe to, the whole issue of CEP can be postponed for a while.

Although there aren’t many who would say that EDA is necessary for driving down coupling in SOA, or that SOA won’t likely provide much value without EDA, or that SOA is necessary for providing the right boundaries for EDA, it’s been my experience that that is exactly the case.

CEP, while being a challenging engineering field, and managing the technical risks around it necessary for a project to succeed in some circumstances, and really shines when used under the SOA/EDA umbrella, it should not be taken by itself and used at the topmost architectural levels.

Related Content

SOA and Enterprise Processes

How client interaction fits with SOA

Time and SOA

Durable Messaging for Fault-Tolerant Services

And if you’re wondering about how to handle all that complexity inside services (different kinds of billing, periodic tests for electronics inventory, etc), you might like listening to this podcast about business components.

Watch that first step

Although sometimes described as the first step of an organization moving to SOA, web-service-izing everything results in synchronous, blocking, request/response interaction between services. The problem being that if one service were to become unavailable, all consumers of that service would not be able to perform any work. With the deep service “call stacks” this architectural style condones, the availability and performance of the entire organization will be dictated by the weakest link.

So, while I’d agree that many organizations do need to take this step, I’d caution against going into production at this step.

Pub/Sub Considered Helpful

When services interact with each other using publish/subscribe semantics we don’t have that technical problem of blocking. Subscribers cache the data published to them (either in memory or durably depending on their fault-tolerance requirements) thus enabling them to function and process requests even if the publisher is unavailable.

Consider the following scenario:

Let’s say we have an e-commerce site, a part of our Sales service responsible for selling products. Another service, let’s call it merchandising, is responsible for the catalog of products, and how much each product costs. Sales is subscribed to price update events published by Merchandising and saves (caches) those prices in its own database. When a customer orders some products on the site, Sales does not need to call Merchandising to get the price of the product and just uses the previously saved (cached) price. Thus, even if Merchandising is unavailable, Sales is able to accept orders. This is a big win as our merchandising application is not nearly as robust as our sales systems.

Yet, there are scenarios where data freshness requirements prevent this.

Too Much of a Good Thing?

Technically, the above story is accurate. There is nothing technically preventing Sales from accepting orders. Yet consider a scenario where Merchandising is down or unavailable for an extended period of time. While this may not be entirely likely for two servers in the same data center, consider physical kiosks which customers can use to buy products. Those kiosks may not receive updates for days. Should they accept orders?

That’s really a question to the business. If pricing data is stale for a time period greater than X, do not sell that item. The value of X may even be different for different kinds of products. Keep in mind that this issue only arose since we architected our services to be fully autonomous. In a synchronous systems architecture, this issue would not come up. As such, it is our responsibility as architects to go digging for these requirements as well as explaining to the business what the tradeoffs are.

In order to have more up to date data, we need to invest in more available hardware, networks, and infrastructure. This needs to be balanced against the predicted increase in revenue that more up to date (read higher) prices would give us.

You Can Get What You Pay For

Beyond the additional cost of writing that additional logic, and the perceived increased complexity, another difference to note between this architectural style and the synchronous/traditional one is that it puts control of spending back in the hands of business.

In a synchronous architecture, in order to achieve required performance and availability, all systems need to be performant requiring across the board investments in servers, networks, and storage. Without investing everywhere, the weakest link is liable to undo all other investments. In other words, your developers have made your investment choices for you. Scary, isn’t it.

A more prudent investment strategy would prefer spending on services that give the biggest bang for the buck, better known as return on investment. A pub/sub based architecture allows investing in data-freshness where it makes the most sense. For example, in sales of high profit products to strategic customers rather than inventory management of raw materials for products slated to be decommissioned.

That sounds a lot like IT-Business Alignment.

Maybe there’s something to this SOA thing after all…

Read more about:

7 Questions for Service Selection

7 Questions around data freshness 

Event-Driven Architecture and Legacy Applications

Autonomous Services and Enterprise Entity Aggregation

Or listen to a podcast describing Business Components, the connection of pub/sub and SOA.

Disclaimer

Before giving some numbers, please keep in mind that high performance of system infrastructure does not necessarily by itself mean that the system above it is running that fast. For instance, you may have server heartbeats running really quickly but the time it takes to save a purchase order borders on a minute. So, please, take all benchmarks with a grain of salt, or two, or a whole shaker-full.

While I’m not at liberty to say on which specific domain/company these numbers were measured, I can say that we had the full gamut of “stateless services”, statefull services (sagas), number crunching, large data sets, many users, complex visualization, etc. Also, this wasn’t the largest installation of nServiceBus that I’m aware of, but its the one I have the most specific numbers for.

Setup

OK, so using the default nServiceBus distribution using MSMQ, on servers where the queue files themselves were on separate SCSI RAID disks, we were pumping around 1000 durable, transactionally processed messages per second, per server. That means that similar to the Neuron case, no messages would be lost in the case of a single fault per server per window (time to replace a failed disk set at 3 hours from failure, through detection, to replacement per site – but that’s more an operational staffing concern, not the technology itself).

So, that’s 3.6 million messages per hour per server, at full load. We had a total of 98 servers doing these kinds of processing, not including web servers, databases, etc. Keep in mind that web servers would be communicating with other servers using nServiceBus, but that would maybe be an unfair comparison to the Neuron numbers.

Server Breakdown

Anyway, the 48 number crunching servers (blade centers) we had were at full load, so we were pumping more than 170 million messages there. Keep in mind that those servers had a really fast backbone so weren’t held up by IO. Your environment may be different.

Another 30 (regular pizza boxes) were doing our sagas. Saga state was stored in a distributed in-memory “cache”, so once again IO wasn’t an issue for processing those messages. We were at about 70% utilization there, coming to just over 100 million messages an hour.

The last 20 were clustered boxes (fairly expensive) that handled the various nServiceBus distributor and timeout manager processes were at full load since they handled control messages for all the servers as well as dynamically routing the load. However, on those boxes we used much higher performance disks for the messages, since they had to feed everything else, capable of doing, on average, around 5000 messages a second. That adds up to 360 million messages an hour.

Unnecessary Durability

Later, we moved a bunch of messages that didn’t need all that durability and transactionality off the disks, pushing the total throughput over 1 billion messages an hour. That was about 100 million per hour durable, 900 million per hour non-durable. You can guess that we were left with plenty of IO to spare at that point while we weren’t yet pushing the limit of our memory.

One thing that’s important to understand is the size of the messages that didn’t require durability was less than 1MB, with most weighing in under 10KB. Also, since most of those messages were published, less state management was required around them, enabling us to further improve performance.

Summary

NServiceBus didn’t give us all that by itself. It was the result of skilled architects, developers, and operations staff working together for many iterations, deploying, monitoring, re-designing, etc. You need to understand your technology, your hardware, and your specific performance, availability, and fault-tolerance requirements if you want to get anywhere.

There’s no magic.

I didn’t see the number or kinds of servers involved in the Neuron case study so this wasn’t ever really a comparison. Nor or we talking about the same system here.

So, please, don’t base your decisions on arbitrary numbers. Spend some time setting up a scaled down version of your target architecture with all the relevant technologies and measure. Be aware that you want high performance end to end, not just of the messaging part. At times, it makes sense to actively throw away messages (of the non-durable, published kind) to help a server come online faster especially after a restart.

Thus ends the tale of another “benchmark”.

This innocuous question comes up a lot. Usually I get this question after a short problem domain description. One of these came up on the nServiceBus discussion groups. Ayende took it and ran with it turning it into a nice blog post, An exercise in designing SOA systems. I’ve been meaning to write something myself. Bill put up a response already in his Service Granularity Example. So, I’m late to the party, again, but here we go.

It’s almost impossible to know, right away, which services are appropriate.

So, I’m going to focus more on the process of getting there, rather than describing the solution itself.

The domain deals with a placement agency placing physicians in positions at hospitals.

1. So, what does it actually do?

In Ayende’s post, he describes several services, but I’d rather look at them as use cases: registering an open position, registering a candidate, verifying their credentials, etc. It’s worth going through this requirements process. It doesn’t necessarily translate immediately to services, but there’s value in it.

2. What does it do it to?

We should also be looking at the data model, an entity relationship diagram (ERD) , where we see that we may have placed a certain physician at a number of positions. It’s also important for us to know about under which circumstances a physician finished their employment at a previous position before, say, trying to place them at a position in the same hospital or chain of hospitals. Don’t go thinking that this what the database schema will look like, it’s all about understanding connections between various bits of data.

3. When does that happen?

The next step is to map the uses cases above to the entities in the ERD, which entity is used in which use case. It’s also important to differentiate between entities (or even more importantly, specific fields of entities) that are used in a read-only fashion within a given use case. For instance, when registering a new position, we’ll want to check that against other open positions in the same hospital so we don’t end up registering the same position twice. Also, we might want to suggest verified physicians whose credentials match the position’s requirements. Data we wouldn’t be interested in might be which other physicians we placed at that hospital.

4. What just happened?

Another valuable perspective on the problem domain is the business process view – what are the interesting business events in the system and how they unfold over time. For instance, physician registered, position opened, physician’s credentials verified, and physician placed in position (or position filled by physician) are events that describe a different business perspective than use cases.

5. How do I decide?

Once we know what events there are, we can start looking at what kind of decisions we might want to make when those events occur and what data we’d need to make those decisions. These decisions may be as simple as updating a database or sending an email to a user. They also may include more advanced logic like when the profitability of an agreement with a specific hospital chain changes, prefer placing physicians in positions in that chain over others.

6. How do I deal with all this information?

After we have all of this information, we can start looking for cohesive bunching across all of these axes using these rules:

• Data that is modified by a use case gets published as an event.
• Data that is required by a use case for read-only purposes, arrives as the result of subscribing to some event.

Look for rules that differentiate behaviour based on the properties of data. Look for a correlation to some business concept. For instance, physicians probably won’t be changing their specialization, and open positions often deal with a certain specialization. Therefore, specific data instances tied to two different specializations can be said to be loosely coupled.

7. Which property slices across the domain?

Even though the ERD may not have made it clear, and the use cases didn’t show any particular break-down, nor did the events call out this point, the key to finding the way a business domain decomposes into services lies in decoupling specific data instances.

Actually, at this point we can clump autonomous components (mere technical bits) that handle a single message, into more granular business components.

If you think about it, it makes a lot of sense. The kind of credential checking you’d do for physicians specializing in brain surgery would likely be different than for general practitioners. The kind of information you’d store would, therefore, also be different.

But, which services do I need?

Quite frankly, I don’t have enough information to know.

But if we had continued this conversation, going through issues like transactional consistency, availability requirements, and other non-functional issues we could have  gotten there.

If there’s one thing that I hope you got out of this, it’s that the questions are what’s important. The iterative process of looking at the problem domain from various perspectives, incorporating the new-found knowledge, and asking more questions is what leads us to a solution. But we don’t stop there. We keep looking for characteristics which split services apart into business components, and for consistency requirements that brings autonomous components together into services.

It’s not easy, but by focusing on these simple questions, you can get to a coherent service oriented architecture.

What’s on first?

Many times I see SOA projects integrate existing/legacy systems focusing only on getting those systems to talk to the ESB (bits flowing) using the right structures (canonical schema, oy). However, little attention is often given to where that integration code runs – in other words, which endpoint does the rest of the system talk to? Who’s in charge of the integration?

The answer is usually muddled – sometimes its the ESB itself (serving more as an EAI broker at that point), sometimes its some DLL that the calling service uses, but I VERY rarely hear anything about the actual process that’s hosting that code, the endpoint itself, or anything that will help us deal with Service-Level Agreements.

No. What’s on second.

If you can’t (or don’t want to) change the legacy application at all, I suggest setting up a new endpoint and an additional process which listens on that endpoint. That process is in charge of communicating with the legacy application and translating whatever is going on to the messaging semantics of the SOA environment. Not everything may be publish/subscribe – other systems may send command messages to the endpoint, resulting in API calls on the legacy application.

One of the things that the process can/should do, is to subscribe to events/messages from other services and feed the relevant information to the legacy application. At times this will be done on an as-needed basis from the legacy application’s perspective – it will call some API/web service that will need to communicate with the afore-mentioned process, and the process will return the data needed.

How is playing a different game

From the perspective of all the other services, the legacy application might as well not even be there – they communicate via the regular messaging semantics with everything.

What is important to understand is that developing that kind of process is not a trivial undertaking. In DDD terms, it can be called an Anti-Corruption Layer, as it prevents the legacy from influencing the structure of any other service. This procedure is one of the ways one can go about slowly getting data and functionality off of mainframes and into more versionable and change-friendly (and cheaper) environments.

I don’t give a darn!

Oh, that’s our esb.

Jim brought the concept of cohesion to the regular SOA discussions around loose coupling in his post Anemic Service Model, which I think, all in all, is a very good idea.

Naïve Service Composition

Jim first calls out a common anti-pattern that seems to have become quite rampant – I’d call it naïve service composition if only the things being composed could even be called services. And I think the tone being set is correct – a service needs to meet a stronger set of criteria than just being able to be composed. Multiple services sharing the same logical data store (in that the same actual rows/data elements are managed by multiple services) probably means there’s an encapsulation problem here. I agree with Jim sentiment here:

“On the one hand we’re inclined, and indeed encouraged by the SOA brigade, to think of this architecture as a good fit for purpose because it is very loosely coupled. Since every component or service is decoupled from every other component or service it should be possible to arrange and re-arrange them in a Lego-style in a myriad of useful ways. Building out “business services” from some more fundamental set of services is how the books tell us to do it. In fact we could even do that quite easily with point-and-[click] BPM tools, ruling out such overheads as developers and change management along the way. Right?”

MVC? There are, like, 6 of them!

However, I disagree with some of the conclusions that Jim draws from that point. Jim states “build your services to implement business processes”, and that services are “just an instance of MVC”. I’m going to leave alone the MVC statement since there are like 6 documented kinds of MVC not including the Front Controller stuff that the web guys are now calling MVC. I’m going to focus on the business process advice. JJ also doesn’t seem to agree with this advice. As Savas has already taken issue with the tone of JJ’s response, I’ll keep my focus on the content.

Visual Cobol

First of all, in my previous conversations with Jim he had already denounced the procedural nature of composing higher-level business processes out of smaller services which implement small bits of common activities. Visual Cobol was how he described it. In JJ’s follow-up post, he called out the necessary aspect of autonomy that jives with Jim’s cohesion principle.

I’m a bit concerned about the way JJ tends to version what SOA means over time. It might make it impossible to have intelligent design discussions without tagging each sentence with “as SOA meant in 2006″. I acknowledge that the accepted meaning of SOA by various vendors has changed over the years. However, I’ve found that meanings rooted in decades of computer science tend to last and provide value that outlasts much of the industry-buzzword-bingo (SOA 2.0 anyone?).

Cohesion, Business Domains, and Business Processes

My view of the original cohesion principles Steve discusses in his 2005 article Old Measures for New Services takes a business spin to Functional Cohesion:

A service should be responsible for one business domain.

If we jump off from this point, we’ll see that certain business processes which occur entirely in one business domain are fully encapsulated, whereas those macro-processes which cross many domains (like Order to Cash) cross multiple services – they do not become a service since that would break the “one business domain” rule. Given that services are loosely coupled, avoiding temporal coupling leads to services raising events. Thus, macro-processes are really just a series of events of various services where each service does its own internal business processes.

Enterprise Processes >> Business Processes

I think that maybe some of the difficulty in discussing concrete SOA guidance has to do with granularity. I’ve started calling those macro-processes something different from business processes, and that may just bring me full circle to Jim’s guidance.

An Enterprise Process is any process which involves multiple business domains.

Under that definition, a service may be responsible for multiple business processes in the same business domain. But still, one business process is usually not a service by itself.

Business Components & Autonomous Components to the Rescue

Finally, by introducing the additional levels of decomposition of business components and autonomous components I’ve found that we can focus the discourse on one concern at a time. My presentation on the topic can be found here. The 30 second pitch is this:

Business domains are inherently partitionable – data and rules. A business component represents one partition. An example of this is the domain of Sales being partitioned by strategic and non-strategic customers. Although the data structure might be similar or the same, the actual rows/data elements are not shared. Rules around discounts are different.

Within a business component, different activities should not interfere with each other. An autonomous component represents one activity. In our example, reporting on orders from strategic customers should not interfere with accepting their orders. As such, those activities should have different messages coming in on different endpoints. Each endpoint could have different characteristics, like durability. Losing a request for a report when a server restarts isn’t a big deal, however not a good idea for orders.

For more information you could check out these episodes from my podcast:

Business and Autonomous Components in SOA

Using Autonomous Components for SLAs in SOA

Questions and comments are always welcome.

Spectacular Scalability with Smart Service Contracts

In this article, I attempt to debunk some of the myths around stateless-ness as the key to scalability.

Here’s how it starts:

It was a sunny day in June 2005 and our spirits were high as we watched the new ordering system we’d worked on for the past 2 years go live in our production environment. Our partners began sending us orders and our monitoring system showed us that everything looked good. After an hour or so, our COO sent out an email to our strategic partners letting them know that they should send their orders to the new system. 5 minutes later, one server went down. A minute after that, 2 more went down. Partners started calling in. We knew that we wouldn’t be seeing any of that sun for a while.

The system that was supposed to increase the profitability of orders from strategic partners crumbled. The then seething COO emailed the strategic partners again, this time to ask them to return to the old system. The weird thing was that although we had servers to spare, just a few orders from a strategic customer could bring a server to its knees. The system could scale to large numbers of regular partners, but couldn’t handle even a few strategic partners.

This is the story of what we did wrong, what we did to fix it, and how it all worked out.

Continue reading…

Note to those who didn’t attend the session: you didn’t hear me say it, so I’ll repeat it: I hate WSDL almost as much as I hate Las Vegas. Ask me why sometime, or if I get enough of a critical mass of questions, I’ll blog it. If you’ve seen me do talks on Web Services, though, you’ve probably heard the rant: WSDL creates tightly-coupled endpoints precisely where loose coupling is necessary, WSDL encourages schema definitions that are inflexible and unevolvable, and WSDL intrinsically assumes a synchronous client-server invocation model that doesn’t really meet the scalability or feature needs of the modern enterprise. And that’s just for starters.

I hate WSDL.

I still hate Vegas more, though.

Web Services, and WSDL by connection have taken hold of the industry like cancer – inhibiting the minds of otherwise intelligent developers and architects. Whenever I get the “Web Services Question” (Does X support Web Services – where X is some design pattern, tool, and sometimes nServiceBus), I have to suppress an urge to groan – I’ve got the question that many times. The other day I was at a client and Sam, their head architect asked me that question. I gave my stock response:

“When you say ‘Web Services’, are you referring to SOAP or WSDL, and is HTTP a necessary component too?”

See how good I got at the suppressing thing?

Sam conceded that Web Services over TCP is OK too, so I pressed on with:

“What about UDP? FTP? MSMQ? Is it still ‘Web Services’ then? Is the rule then that ‘Web Services’ == SOAP?”

At that point, Sam was beginning to get a little flustered.

“And what’s so great about SOAP? Is it the interoperability? Because that’s just because it’s based on XSD.”

He didn’t know how to reply. Instead, he walked away from the whiteboard and sat down. I didn’t let up:

“And what if we want to do something other than Request/Response? How about one request with many responses? How about many requests and one response? And why does this decision need to be rigid? Shouldn’t we just be able to decide programmatically how many responses we want to return? Wouldn’t that flexibility be better than creating huge response structures for web methods to return?”

Sam made his last stand:

“Look, we can’t go and do something different from the rest of the industry. Everybody else is doing Web Services. It’s not like the technology doesn’t work.”

I gave way, a little:

“If you want, we can offer two interfaces. One, the flexible, robust, scalable XSD over messaging based solution. The second, an icky, synchronous Web Services facade which calls into our first interface.

I’m not saying that the technology doesn’t work – but both of us know that every problem has multiple solutions, some are fragile and error prone like WS, others are more elegant and have decades of knowledge behind them like messaging.

But we can do both if you like. How’s that?”

And it was agreed. The entire system would be built on one-way messaging patterns using XSD in cases where interoperability was required. And WS would be layered on, like a tiny little pig on top of a gigantic lipstick … thing – hmm, that metaphor isn’t really working – well, you get the idea.

I hate WSDL. Never been to Vegas, though.

Typically, in such an environment [SOA], services tend to be parts of multiple systems. For example, consider a Products service! It might start its life as part of a sales system. Later it might be involved in a purchasing system, a product development system, a marketing system, a warehousing system, and perhaps in several other systems too. This process may take years, and it really never ends. The service is the same, but its responsibilities and its external exposure are increased with each system it’s enrolled in.

One of the core tenets of SOA that all vendors and analysts agree upon is that there should be loose coupling between services. If you were to design such a product service, it’s clear that changing part of its interface could break almost every system in the enterprise. That doesn’t sound like loose coupling to me.

If there’s one place that is the source of loose coupling – it’s the business. Warehousing is viewed by the business as being fairly independent of Marketing. While Sales might make use of data created in Product Development, business wouldn’t want any problems in IT related to Product Development to inhibit Sales ability to accept orders. That is another kind of loose coupling – the ability of one service to make use of “not-accurate-up-to-the-millisecond” data created by another service. That’s known as loose “temporal” coupling, as in loose coupling in the dimension of time.

Loosely-Coupled Services

So, in the example described we’d see the following services:

• Sales
• Purchasing
• Product Development
• Marketing
• Warehousing / Inventory

Product data would flow between the services but each would have a very different internal view of it.

• Product Development would be more interested in managing the schedule and risk around a product’s development.
• Marketing would probably be more focused on its relation to competing products and pricing.
• Purchasing would be maintaining data as to which suppliers are being used to supply raw materials for the production of the product.
• Sales would be looking at actually accepting orders and giving discounts.
• Warehousing would be focused on the storage and transportation aspects of the product.

As you can see, there is very little overlap in the data between these services even on something similar like product data. The logic of each service around the management of its data would be even more different. This leads to services with a high level of autonomy.

There Be Dragons…

Without starting at this business-level loose coupling, I doubt that any technical effort will succeed. That is to say every time I’ve seen this style implemented it has failed, but that’s no proof. Conversely, every time that we did start our SOA efforts by identifying the clear business fracture lines, we were able to maintain loose coupling all the way down. That is not to say that it always will succeed, but the logic is sound.

I suppose that the difference between my view on SOA and Sundblad’s stems from the fact that they put systems at a higher level of abstraction than services, and I put services on top. Regardless, I do agree with their views about architecture and engineering and consider them quite valuable.

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• Podcast: “REST vs Web Services Debate”
• REST Definition
• Roy Fielding’s Thesis: “Architectural Styles and the Design ofNetwork-based Software Architectures”
• ETag Definition

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I was wondering if any of my loyal subscribers would be interested in getting a set of DVDs containing Udi talking for hours and hours about how to identify services, map out cross-service business processes, zero in on business fracture points to further decompose services into business components, and decompose those into autonomous components by analyzing non-functional message properties,  summing up with using all that information for choosing cost-effective technologies for each autonomous component.

In other words, get 5 days of training you can pause, think about, and replay as many times as you need. There’s something for almost every phase of an enterprise project, from top level architecture, through coding, testing, to deployment tips and monitoring tactics, so you can pick up what you need – right when you need it.

Please bear with me as I get the processes in place for getting this out.

I’m wondering – how valuable do you think it would be to have weekly live online Q&A sessions as opposed to the more asynchronous (and scalable) simple forum thing?

Just so I can see what I need to be preparing myself for, please leave a comment below expressing your interest. If you also know someone else who might benefit from this, drop them a link. The last thing I want to have happen is for this to take months and months to get out because I didn’t prepare things in advance that I could have.

And a big thanks to Simon and the gang in Australia for helping make this happen. It was a great two weeks and I thank you for that.

Not so.

The other day I sat down to implement and test a non-trivial business process, and the testing was far from easy. Now as developers go, I’m not great, or an expert on unit testing or TDD, but I’m above average. It should not have been this hard. And I tried doing it with Rhino.Mocks, TypeMock, and finally Moq. It seemed like I was in a no-mans-land, between trying to do state-based testing, and setting expectations on the messages being sent (as well as correct values in those messages), nothing flowed.

Until I finally stopped trying to figure out how to test, and focused on what needed to be tested. I mean, it’s not like I was trying to build a generic mocking framework like Daniel.

Here’s an example business process, or actually, part of one, and then we’ll see how that can be tested. By the way, there will be a post coming soon which describes how we go about analysing a system, coming up with these message types, and how these sagas come into being, so stay tuned. Either that, or just come to my tutorial at QCon.

On with the process:

1. When we receive a CreateOrderMessage, whose “Completed” flag is true, we’ll send 2 AuthorizationRequestMessages to internal systems (for managers to authorize the order), one OrderStatusUpdatedMessage to the caller with a status “Received”, and a TimeoutMessage to the TimeoutManager requesting to be notified – so that the process doesn’t get stuck if one or both messages don’t get a response.

2. When we receive the first AuthorizationResponseMessage, we notify the initiator of the Order by sending them a OrderStatusUpdatedMessage with a status “Authorized1”.

3. When we get “timed out” from the TimeoutManager, we check if at least one AuthorizationResponseMessage has arrived, and if so, publish an OrderAcceptedMessage, and notify the initator (again via the OrderStatusUpdatedMessage) this time with a status of “Accepted”.

And here’s the test:

    public class OrderSagaTests
    {
        private OrderSaga orderSaga = null;
        private string timeoutAddress;
        private Saga Saga;     

        [SetUp]
        public void Setup()
        {
            timeoutAddress = "timeout";
            Saga = Saga.Test(out orderSaga, timeoutAddress);
        }     

        [Test]
        public void OrderProcessingShouldCompleteAfterOneAuthorizationAndOneTimeout()
        {
            Guid externalOrderId = Guid.NewGuid();
            Guid customerId = Guid.NewGuid();
            string clientAddress = "client";     

            CreateOrderMessage createOrderMsg = new CreateOrderMessage();
            createOrderMsg.OrderId = externalOrderId;
            createOrderMsg.CustomerId = customerId;
            createOrderMsg.Products = new List<Guid>(new Guid[] { Guid.NewGuid() });
            createOrderMsg.Amounts = new List<float>(new float[] { 10.0F });
            createOrderMsg.Completed = true;     

            TimeoutMessage timeoutMessage = null;     

            Saga.WhenReceivesMessageFrom(clientAddress)
                .ExpectSend<AuthorizeOrderRequestMessage>(
                    delegate(AuthorizeOrderRequestMessage m)
                    {
                        return m.SagaId == orderSaga.Id;
                    })
                .ExpectSend<AuthorizeOrderRequestMessage>(
                    delegate(AuthorizeOrderRequestMessage m)
                    {
                        return m.SagaId == orderSaga.Id;
                    })
                .ExpectSendToDestination<OrderStatusUpdatedMessage>(
                    delegate(string destination, OrderStatusUpdatedMessage m)
                    {
                        return m.OrderId == externalOrderId && destination == clientAddress;
                    })
                .ExpectSendToDestination<TimeoutMessage>(
                    delegate(string destination, TimeoutMessage m)
                    {
                        timeoutMessage = m;
                        return m.SagaId == orderSaga.Id && destination == timeoutAddress;
                    })
                .When(delegate { orderSaga.Handle(createOrderMsg); });     

            Assert.IsFalse(orderSaga.Completed);     

            AuthorizeOrderResponseMessage response = new AuthorizeOrderResponseMessage();
            response.ManagerId = Guid.NewGuid();
            response.Authorized = true;
            response.SagaId = orderSaga.Id;     

            Saga.ExpectSendToDestination<OrderStatusUpdatedMessage>(
                    delegate(string destination, OrderStatusUpdatedMessage m)
                    {
                        return (destination == clientAddress &&
                                m.OrderId == externalOrderId &&
                                m.Status == OrderStatus.Authorized1);
                    })
                .When(delegate { orderSaga.Handle(response); });     

            Assert.IsFalse(orderSaga.Completed);     

            Saga.ExpectSendToDestination<OrderStatusUpdatedMessage>(
                    delegate(string destination, OrderStatusUpdatedMessage m)
                    {
                        return (destination == clientAddress &&
                                m.OrderId == externalOrderId &&
                                m.Status == OrderStatus.Accepted);
                    })
                .ExpectPublish<OrderAcceptedMessage>(
                    delegate(OrderAcceptedMessage m)
                    {
                        return (m.CustomerId == customerId);
                    })
                .When(delegate { orderSaga.Timeout(timeoutMessage.State); });     

            Assert.IsTrue(orderSaga.Completed);
        }
    }

You might notice that this style is a bit similar to the fluent testing found in Rhino Mocks. That’s not coincidence. It actually makes use of Rhino Mocks internally. The thing that I discovered was that in order to test these sagas, you don’t need to actually see a mocking framework. All you should have to do is express how messages get sent, and under what criteria those messages are valid.

If you’re wondering what the OrderSaga looks like, you can find the code right here. It’s not a complete business process implementation, but its enough to understand how one would look like:

using System;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using ExternalOrderMessages;
using NServiceBus.Saga;
using NServiceBus;
using InternalOrderMessages;     

namespace ProcessingLogic
{
    [Serializable]
    public class OrderSaga : ISaga<CreateOrderMessage>,
        ISaga<AuthorizeOrderResponseMessage>,
        ISaga<CancelOrderMessage>
    {
        #region config info     

        [NonSerialized]
        private IBus bus;
        public IBus Bus
        {
            set { this.bus = value; }
        }     

        [NonSerialized]
        private Reminder reminder;
        public Reminder Reminder
        {
            set { this.reminder = value; }
        }     

        #endregion     

        private Guid id;
        private bool completed;
        public string clientAddress;
        public Guid externalOrderId;
        public int numberOfPendingAuthorizations = 2;
        public List<CreateOrderMessage> orderItems = new List<CreateOrderMessage>();     

        public void Handle(CreateOrderMessage message)
        {
            this.clientAddress = this.bus.SourceOfMessageBeingHandled;
            this.externalOrderId = message.OrderId;     

            this.orderItems.Add(message);     

            if (message.Completed)
            {
                for (int i = 0; i < this.numberOfPendingAuthorizations; i++)
                {
                    AuthorizeOrderRequestMessage req = new AuthorizeOrderRequestMessage();
                    req.SagaId = this.id;
                    req.OrderData = orderItems;     

                    this.bus.Send(req);
                }
            }     

            this.SendUpdate(OrderStatus.Recieved);     

            this.reminder.ExpireIn(message.ProvideBy - DateTime.Now, this, null);
        }     

        public void Timeout(object state)
        {
            if (this.numberOfPendingAuthorizations <= 1)
                this.Complete();
        }     

        public Guid Id
        {
            get { return id; }
            set { id = value; }
        }     

        public bool Completed
        {
            get { return completed; }
        }     

        public void Handle(AuthorizeOrderResponseMessage message)
        {
            if (message.Authorized)
            {
                this.numberOfPendingAuthorizations--;     

                if (this.numberOfPendingAuthorizations == 1)
                    this.SendUpdate(OrderStatus.Authorized1);
                else
                {
                    this.SendUpdate(OrderStatus.Authorized2);
                    this.Complete();
                }
            }
            else
            {
                this.SendUpdate(OrderStatus.Rejected);
                this.Complete();
            }
        }     

        public void Handle(CancelOrderMessage message)
        {     

        }     

        private void SendUpdate(OrderStatus status)
        {
            OrderStatusUpdatedMessage update = new OrderStatusUpdatedMessage();
            update.OrderId = this.externalOrderId;
            update.Status = status;     

            this.bus.Send(this.clientAddress, update);
        }     

        private void Complete()
        {
            this.completed = true;     

            this.SendUpdate(OrderStatus.Accepted);     

            OrderAcceptedMessage accepted = new OrderAcceptedMessage();
            accepted.Products = new List<Guid>(this.orderItems.Count);
            accepted.Amounts = new List<float>(this.orderItems.Count);     

            this.orderItems.ForEach(delegate(CreateOrderMessage m)
                                        {
                                            accepted.Products.AddRange(m.Products);
                                            accepted.Amounts.AddRange(m.Amounts);
                                            accepted.CustomerId = m.CustomerId;
                                        });     

            this.bus.Publish(accepted);
        }
    }
}

All this code is online in the subversion repository under /Samples/Saga.

Questions, comments, and general thoughts are always appreciated.

Symon asks:

Hi Udi,

I don’t know if this is really an NServiceBus question or a more general architecture question, so if you want to treat it as an Ask Udi question feel free.   My question is about handling message prioritization between services in an SOA architecture using an ESB-  in this case NServiceBus.

We’ve been running along nicely getting the hang of using the NServiceBus but have just hit a point in our application where it’s become clear that we’re going to need to prioritize messages between services according to an arbitrary set of rules.  To that end we’ve created a “controller” that determines a message’s priority according to a set of rules and that controller should forward the message to other services for handling according to that priority.  Where we’re stuck is figuring out the best way to handle the prioritization of the forwarded message.

We touched on the idea of having several endpoints representing low, medium or high priority and shunting the message to the appropriate endpoint, however since the receiving service consists of multiple workers located on other machines we need to have a dispatcher for each of these endpoints.  Since we’re using MSMQ this seems to be causing an explosion of queues and the solution seems to require a lot of overhead in terms of set up, but it *does* look like it might be flexible as long as we come up with a smart dispatcher.

Is this an “ideal” way to handle message prioritization?  I know there is a notion of priority in MSMQ messages, but this isn’t exposed in NServiceBus as far as I can tell.

Any suggestions?

Cheers,

Symon

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Since you’re concerned that maybe your shipping company’s servers may be down for some kind of planned (or unplanned) maintenance just as you’re trying to fulfill orders, you use a durable messaging solution there. What happens is that messages get written to disk on your end, and later the messaging tries to transfer the messages until it succeeds. So what’s wrong with that?

Well, let’s say that the shipping company’s servers went up in smoke (true story – broken down air conditioners + poor ventilation, you get the picture). Those servers aren’t going to be coming back online any second now. So, you have all these order messages buffering on your disk. Taking into account all the data, meta-data, XML, SOAP, encryption and everything, we may get up to 1MB per message.

And now’s holiday season and your company’s selling hand over fist, hundreds of orders per second from all over the world. So that means we’re eating up 100MB of disk per second, that’s 6GB a minute, and in under an hour of our shipping company’s servers going down – so do ours.

Durable messaging – yay? We don’t want to lose those orders, right? In short, durable messaging is an important part of the solution, but it’s not the whole solution.

[Continued next time...]

If you’re impatient and just want the solution, yes, nServiceBus give you all the tools you need.

Here’s the info:

Despite the recent flood of technologies and releases, distributed enterprise .net solution development remains as hard as ever. WCF and WF provide valuable runtime components, yet still leave open the risk of developers using the wrong combination of options and ending up with an unscalable solution.

In this session we’ll be looking at nServiceBus, an open-source communications framework, that guides developers into a style of development that is scalable by design. Including publish/subscribe facilities and long-running process state management, nServiceBus solves many of the challenges found in the enterprise. Finally, we’ll see the dynamic load-balancing features that enables endpoints to automatically adjust resource allocation in a grid-style deployment.

Date Jan 17, 2008 14:00 16:00

Location IGT Offices, Maskit 4, 5th Floor, Hertzelia

As usual, I’ll be putting up the slides and example code after the presentation.

The (pdf) presentation is here: Asynchronous Systems Architecture for the Web

The code sample is here: Asynchronous User Management Code Sample

In the sample, you can see the use of sagas to manage the user registration process; store user email and hashed password, send a confirmation “email”, when the user clicks the “link”, the web server will take the saga id found in the url, and send a message with that id. This will cause the saga to complete and the user to be written to the “database”.

Since I didn’t have an email component on my laptop, and I’m guessing you don’t either, the saga just writes the url to the console. Copy and paste it from there into the browser, and you’re good to go.

A Word on TimeoutExceptions

One other thing that I want to call to your attention. When stepping-through the code in the debugger, you’re liable to spend more time than the Transaction Coordinator likes, which will cause it to rollback and try the message again. This is supposed to happen and occurs by design.

When you’re actually working with a database in a high performance environment, there will be cases where one transaction locks a page of a table and may cause other transactions to either timeout or be chosen as victims and just tossed. The behavior that best handles this scenario is just to retry the transaction.

However, you don’t have to write ugly code that checks for the specific error codes of each specific database for your code to work properly. The infrastructure will automatically do that for you – just let the exception happen. No need to write any try-catch code.

The sample is built on the newly released version of nServiceBus (1.6.1) but already contains all the binaries so you don’t have to set anything up yourself.

What’s coming for nServiceBus

We’re working towards a 2.0 release in the June-July timeframe which, beyond having the necessary documentation, web site, samples and everything any self-respecting open-source project has, is going to have some amazing grid-style features that will make all the message-priority & dynamic-routing stuff look “so last year”. Stay tuned.

Our long time listener Bill asks:

Hi Udi,

I have a question around processing of messages in proper order. When leveraging multiple threads to process messages in a message queue, it is possible for the second message in the queue to get processed before the first – especially if the first message is considerably larger than the second. I have taken a lot of care to make sure that messages are sent in the correct order, only to find that the receiving system can process them out of order anyway.

Consider a Policy Created notification, which must come before a Policy Approved notification. If both messages are sitting in the queue when the receiving service starts up, the approval message can be processed before the creation message. How can I make sure that message ordering is respected by the receiving system? I am using WCF/MSMQ as the underlying transport by the way. The only way I have found so far is to limit the receiving service to a single thread, which is by no means desirable.

Best Regards,

Bill

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Titled "BizTalk Blogs", I wasn’t quite sure what my blog was doing there. It’s not that I never write about BizTalk – every once in a while I even find something nice to say about it My quick post on BizTalk and Performance is one such example. But, let’s face it, a lot of the work I do is to provide BizTalk-like features like routing, transaction-management, and choreography (orchestration) without the actual product.

Apparently, I’m not the only non-BizTalk-only blogger there.

Including such names as Christian Weyer and Michelle Leroux Bustamante , there is a veritable who’s who in the Microsoft Connected Systems ecosystem and, quite frankly, I’m surprised the bouncer let me in the door.

So, this post is for my readers who, like me, have pretty much ignored anything looking like BizTalk for the past few years. Don’t let the name fool you. BizTalk Blogs is a valuable resource even for people who don’t care about BizTalk – and hey, you might even like what you start hearing about the future directions Microsoft is taking it.

But that’s enough of that. We’ll be back with your regularly scheduled BizTalk bashing right after this break…