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	<title>Comments on: Search and Messaging</title>
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		<title>By: Douglas</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2009/11/01/search-and-messaging/comment-page-1/#comment-37110</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An example query where the results come back a part at a time: Wolfram Alpha http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=new+york</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An example query where the results come back a part at a time: Wolfram Alpha <a href="http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=new+york" rel="nofollow">http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=new+york</a></p>
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		<title>By: udidahan</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2009/11/01/search-and-messaging/comment-page-1/#comment-36851</link>
		<dc:creator>udidahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ronald,

The thing is that when users are searching for something, they don&#039;t always know how to express that well in a search criteria. The users&#039; goal isn&#039;t usually to see what&#039;s the best the search engine could do - it&#039;s to find something.

Users get confidence from finding what they&#039;re looking for - not from:

&gt; I&#039;m done. Here are the best results that I could find

Also, there&#039;s a difference in searching when you know there&#039;s a unique result, and when you only know what you&#039;re looking for when you see it, like when searching for images.

When we get specific about the kind of search experience our users are looking for, that&#039;s when we can come up with the best architecture and UI design to meet those needs - rather than just staying with the current mold out of momentum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronald,</p>
<p>The thing is that when users are searching for something, they don&#8217;t always know how to express that well in a search criteria. The users&#8217; goal isn&#8217;t usually to see what&#8217;s the best the search engine could do &#8211; it&#8217;s to find something.</p>
<p>Users get confidence from finding what they&#8217;re looking for &#8211; not from:</p>
<p>> I&#8217;m done. Here are the best results that I could find</p>
<p>Also, there&#8217;s a difference in searching when you know there&#8217;s a unique result, and when you only know what you&#8217;re looking for when you see it, like when searching for images.</p>
<p>When we get specific about the kind of search experience our users are looking for, that&#8217;s when we can come up with the best architecture and UI design to meet those needs &#8211; rather than just staying with the current mold out of momentum.</p>
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		<title>By: udidahan</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2009/11/01/search-and-messaging/comment-page-1/#comment-36850</link>
		<dc:creator>udidahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Olivier,

It sounds like what you&#039;re saying is that technology is moving in directions to enable these kinds patterns easier. Cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Olivier,</p>
<p>It sounds like what you&#8217;re saying is that technology is moving in directions to enable these kinds patterns easier. Cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Widha</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2009/11/01/search-and-messaging/comment-page-1/#comment-36848</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronald Widha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The logic seem sound. 

However, windows search (without indexing) works similarly. I didn&#039;t find myself refining the search term until I&#039;m sure I&#039;m not getting what I&#039;m looking for. In my mind, I want to make sure that the search engine have done its thing to present the most optimal answer for me.

This is what we get with search engine like google. users get the impression &#039;i&#039;m done. here are the best result that i could find&#039;. Showing incremental result will not give the same confidence to the user</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The logic seem sound. </p>
<p>However, windows search (without indexing) works similarly. I didn&#8217;t find myself refining the search term until I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m not getting what I&#8217;m looking for. In my mind, I want to make sure that the search engine have done its thing to present the most optimal answer for me.</p>
<p>This is what we get with search engine like google. users get the impression &#8216;i&#8217;m done. here are the best result that i could find&#8217;. Showing incremental result will not give the same confidence to the user</p>
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		<title>By: Olivier Deheurles</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2009/11/01/search-and-messaging/comment-page-1/#comment-36843</link>
		<dc:creator>Olivier Deheurles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Udi,

Browser interaction does not necessarily rely on RPC. When using mainstream web servers, polling may be the best solution while waiting for backend results.

HTTP Push servers (Lightstreamer, Caplin Liberator, etc) or HTTP compliant middlewares (My-Channels Nirvana) exists and allow a fully asynchronous model, front to back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Udi,</p>
<p>Browser interaction does not necessarily rely on RPC. When using mainstream web servers, polling may be the best solution while waiting for backend results.</p>
<p>HTTP Push servers (Lightstreamer, Caplin Liberator, etc) or HTTP compliant middlewares (My-Channels Nirvana) exists and allow a fully asynchronous model, front to back.</p>
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		<title>By: udidahan</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2009/11/01/search-and-messaging/comment-page-1/#comment-36835</link>
		<dc:creator>udidahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexander - glad you liked it.

Giorgio - agreed. I think pagination is an artifact of web 1.0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexander &#8211; glad you liked it.</p>
<p>Giorgio &#8211; agreed. I think pagination is an artifact of web 1.0.</p>
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		<title>By: Giorgio Sironi</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2009/11/01/search-and-messaging/comment-page-1/#comment-36834</link>
		<dc:creator>Giorgio Sironi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also think pagination in a search needs a new architecture, I guess javascript frameworks can help in your message-based solution in the case of browsers as and users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also think pagination in a search needs a new architecture, I guess javascript frameworks can help in your message-based solution in the case of browsers as and users.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Abramov</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2009/11/01/search-and-messaging/comment-page-1/#comment-36830</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander Abramov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article.

I think another relevant example is twitter search. Their search results are always sorted by time, so it makes sense to display initial results and then subscribe to notifications about new ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.</p>
<p>I think another relevant example is twitter search. Their search results are always sorted by time, so it makes sense to display initial results and then subscribe to notifications about new ones.</p>
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