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	<title>Comments on: NServiceBus 1.9</title>
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	<description>Enterprise Development Expert &#38; SOA Specialist</description>
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		<title>By: Testing Message Handlers with NServiceBus &#187; Kang The Koder</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2009/02/07/nservicebus-19/comment-page-1/#comment-37012</link>
		<dc:creator>Testing Message Handlers with NServiceBus &#187; Kang The Koder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] testing and then production.&#160; Most of what i talk about here is in direct reference the 1.9 release of NServiceBus. If you have not seen how Saga’s are unit tested in NServiceBus have a read of Udi’s post on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] testing and then production.&#160; Most of what i talk about here is in direct reference the 1.9 release of NServiceBus. If you have not seen how Saga’s are unit tested in NServiceBus have a read of Udi’s post on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NServiceBus 2.0 Release Candidate 2 Available</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2009/02/07/nservicebus-19/comment-page-1/#comment-37006</link>
		<dc:creator>NServiceBus 2.0 Release Candidate 2 Available</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So it&#8217;s been about 6 months since my last NServiceBus post and since then about 1000 new people have subscribed to this blog so they might not know anything about it. For a bit of history, see the post (from almost exactly a year ago) describing the 1.9 release of NServiceBus here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So it&#8217;s been about 6 months since my last NServiceBus post and since then about 1000 new people have subscribed to this blog so they might not know anything about it. For a bit of history, see the post (from almost exactly a year ago) describing the 1.9 release of NServiceBus here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rq</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2009/02/07/nservicebus-19/comment-page-1/#comment-36318</link>
		<dc:creator>Rq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 08:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I am sorry, just checked again and it didn&#039;t ask?  maybe I got  hit by a phishing site when trying to get a yahoo Id, strange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I am sorry, just checked again and it didn&#8217;t ask?  maybe I got  hit by a phishing site when trying to get a yahoo Id, strange.</p>
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		<title>By: udidahan</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2009/02/07/nservicebus-19/comment-page-1/#comment-36316</link>
		<dc:creator>udidahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rq,

Odd - this is the first I&#039;ve heard about Yahoo requiring a credit card to join a group. There haven&#039;t been any issues with them so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rq,</p>
<p>Odd &#8211; this is the first I&#8217;ve heard about Yahoo requiring a credit card to join a group. There haven&#8217;t been any issues with them so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Rq</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2009/02/07/nservicebus-19/comment-page-1/#comment-36313</link>
		<dc:creator>Rq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Work.
Would it be possible to use a different groups provider than Yahoo groups.
Yahoo requires credit card details to become a member, something that I am willing not willing to supply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Work.<br />
Would it be possible to use a different groups provider than Yahoo groups.<br />
Yahoo requires credit card details to become a member, something that I am willing not willing to supply.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2009/02/07/nservicebus-19/comment-page-1/#comment-36054</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.  Thanks, Udi!   I&#039;ll check out ActiveMQ for its transport capabilities across multiple platforms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  Thanks, Udi!   I&#8217;ll check out ActiveMQ for its transport capabilities across multiple platforms.</p>
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		<title>By: udidahan</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2009/02/07/nservicebus-19/comment-page-1/#comment-36035</link>
		<dc:creator>udidahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Kemp,

I would advise you to upgrade to MSMQ 3.1 (which might, maybe, work on Win2k). I believe v1.8 is purely .net 2.0, so give that a try.

Let me know how this works out for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Kemp,</p>
<p>I would advise you to upgrade to MSMQ 3.1 (which might, maybe, work on Win2k). I believe v1.8 is purely .net 2.0, so give that a try.</p>
<p>Let me know how this works out for you.</p>
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		<title>By: John Kemp</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2009/02/07/nservicebus-19/comment-page-1/#comment-36034</link>
		<dc:creator>John Kemp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Udi,

I&#039;m a first time user of nServiceBus and was really looking forward to using it but I&#039;ve come accross an issue. We&#039;re tyring to use it with MSMQ 2.0 on Win2K but, lo and behold, .net 3.5 cannot be installed on Win2K. Is there a build of nServicebus that&#039;s build against the 2.0 framework only (i.e. builds 1.8 or 1.7)? At this point I&#039;m not sure what we&#039;re going to use if there isn&#039;t one. Unfortunately both MassTransit and RhinoSB also rely on the 3.5 framework. Any thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Udi,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a first time user of nServiceBus and was really looking forward to using it but I&#8217;ve come accross an issue. We&#8217;re tyring to use it with MSMQ 2.0 on Win2K but, lo and behold, .net 3.5 cannot be installed on Win2K. Is there a build of nServicebus that&#8217;s build against the 2.0 framework only (i.e. builds 1.8 or 1.7)? At this point I&#8217;m not sure what we&#8217;re going to use if there isn&#8217;t one. Unfortunately both MassTransit and RhinoSB also rely on the 3.5 framework. Any thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: udidahan</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2009/02/07/nservicebus-19/comment-page-1/#comment-36033</link>
		<dc:creator>udidahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

You *can* run .net code on a JVM using tools like the ones I described in this post:

http://www.udidahan.com/2007/05/28/netjava-interop-is-not-a-reason-for-soa/

That being said, I&#039;d advise against it. 

The large ESB products out there have APIs for both platforms - but there are still differences in the APIs, understandably, since each platform has its own conventions.

Just like there is no WCF for Java, nServiceBus is targetted at .NET processes. Similar to how WCF supports standards for communication available on Java, so too does nServiceBus. Choosing a multi-platform transport like ActiveMQ along with XML serialization of messages will give you a complete interoperaibility story.

Does that answer your question?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>You *can* run .net code on a JVM using tools like the ones I described in this post:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.udidahan.com/2007/05/28/netjava-interop-is-not-a-reason-for-soa/" rel="nofollow">http://www.udidahan.com/2007/05/28/netjava-interop-is-not-a-reason-for-soa/</a></p>
<p>That being said, I&#8217;d advise against it. </p>
<p>The large ESB products out there have APIs for both platforms &#8211; but there are still differences in the APIs, understandably, since each platform has its own conventions.</p>
<p>Just like there is no WCF for Java, nServiceBus is targetted at .NET processes. Similar to how WCF supports standards for communication available on Java, so too does nServiceBus. Choosing a multi-platform transport like ActiveMQ along with XML serialization of messages will give you a complete interoperaibility story.</p>
<p>Does that answer your question?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2009/02/07/nservicebus-19/comment-page-1/#comment-36030</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the reply. I was trying to get my head around how the NService bus could be used to route messages to/from a Java application that provides a service or a Java client that needs to interact with non-Java provider.   In looking at the NServiceBus Overview page, the diagrams show MSMQ providing the underlying messaging between the client and the server.  I understand that MSMQ can be called asynchronously from a .NET Client, but did not see how Java could interact in the same way.   My question is basically - can Java and .NET clients/servers share this same scaleable message delivering framework?   I know least about Java, but would assume that the XML message you referenced in your reply would have to be sent in a sychronous manner to a WCF service and then propagated to the NServiceBus architecture.  In other words, how would the response be propagated back to a Java client?  I think maybe I am trying to comapare NServiceBus to an ESB, whereas NServiceBus seems like a framework that is more suited to a homogeneous .NET environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reply. I was trying to get my head around how the NService bus could be used to route messages to/from a Java application that provides a service or a Java client that needs to interact with non-Java provider.   In looking at the NServiceBus Overview page, the diagrams show MSMQ providing the underlying messaging between the client and the server.  I understand that MSMQ can be called asynchronously from a .NET Client, but did not see how Java could interact in the same way.   My question is basically &#8211; can Java and .NET clients/servers share this same scaleable message delivering framework?   I know least about Java, but would assume that the XML message you referenced in your reply would have to be sent in a sychronous manner to a WCF service and then propagated to the NServiceBus architecture.  In other words, how would the response be propagated back to a Java client?  I think maybe I am trying to comapare NServiceBus to an ESB, whereas NServiceBus seems like a framework that is more suited to a homogeneous .NET environment.</p>
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		<title>By: udidahan</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2009/02/07/nservicebus-19/comment-page-1/#comment-36029</link>
		<dc:creator>udidahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 15:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

Let me know how it works out for you. Feel free to send me an email if you have any questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>Let me know how it works out for you. Feel free to send me an email if you have any questions.</p>
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		<title>By: udidahan</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2009/02/07/nservicebus-19/comment-page-1/#comment-36028</link>
		<dc:creator>udidahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 15:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

One way for a Java application to interact with a .NET application using nServiceBus is to send an XML message to its queue.

If you&#039;re asking about using nServiceBus as a framework within a Java application, I&#039;d advise against it. There a very mature open source messaging frameworks for Java like Mule that would probably provide what you&#039;re looking for.

Hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>One way for a Java application to interact with a .NET application using nServiceBus is to send an XML message to its queue.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re asking about using nServiceBus as a framework within a Java application, I&#8217;d advise against it. There a very mature open source messaging frameworks for Java like Mule that would probably provide what you&#8217;re looking for.</p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2009/02/07/nservicebus-19/comment-page-1/#comment-36021</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post.  Looks like a very robust and capable framework.  In our company, many of external facing apps are written in Java, but we use .NET a lot for internal apps.   I&#039;ve tried to pick this out from the documentation and discussion groups to no avail, but is there any way for Java apps to interact with NServiceBus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post.  Looks like a very robust and capable framework.  In our company, many of external facing apps are written in Java, but we use .NET a lot for internal apps.   I&#8217;ve tried to pick this out from the documentation and discussion groups to no avail, but is there any way for Java apps to interact with NServiceBus?</p>
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		<title>By: Dew Drop - February 11, 2009 &#124; Alvin Ashcraft's Morning Dew</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2009/02/07/nservicebus-19/comment-page-1/#comment-36018</link>
		<dc:creator>Dew Drop - February 11, 2009 &#124; Alvin Ashcraft's Morning Dew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] NServiceBus 1.9 (Udi Dahan) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Cyvas</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2009/02/07/nservicebus-19/comment-page-1/#comment-36017</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Cyvas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done! I&#039;ve been following this for a while and intent to use it in the next version of dashCommerce!

Excellent work!

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done! I&#8217;ve been following this for a while and intent to use it in the next version of dashCommerce!</p>
<p>Excellent work!</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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