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	<title>Comments on: Using spaces with web services</title>
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	<description>Enterprise Development Expert &#38; SOA Specialist</description>
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		<title>By: An Answer of Scale</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2007/05/05/using-spaces-with-web-services/comment-page-1/#comment-29135</link>
		<dc:creator>An Answer of Scale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The important message here is that the scalability of a system is a cost function that gives throughput as a function of recurring costs and one time costs - servers and other hardware, and the join of buy &amp; build: Did you write your own locking/transaction mechanism on top of an open source distributed cache or did you buy a license for a space-based technology? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The important message here is that the scalability of a system is a cost function that gives throughput as a function of recurring costs and one time costs &#8211; servers and other hardware, and the join of buy &amp; build: Did you write your own locking/transaction mechanism on top of an open source distributed cache or did you buy a license for a space-based technology? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NBus now supporting long running workflow</title>
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		<dc:creator>NBus now supporting long running workflow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 23:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This update includes support for long-running workflows and includes persistent timer functionality. Workflow persistence is abstracted behind an IWorkflowPersister. The current drop includes an in-memory persister, but you could easily implement it over a database, or a distributed in-memory datagrid / space. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This update includes support for long-running workflows and includes persistent timer functionality. Workflow persistence is abstracted behind an IWorkflowPersister. The current drop includes an in-memory persister, but you could easily implement it over a database, or a distributed in-memory datagrid / space. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Purdy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cameron Purdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 12:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks :-)

Where are you based? Drop me an email ..

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks <img src='http://www.udidahan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Where are you based? Drop me an email ..</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: thesoftwaresimplist</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2007/05/05/using-spaces-with-web-services/comment-page-1/#comment-1630</link>
		<dc:creator>thesoftwaresimplist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 07:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cameron,

It was an oversight on my part not to include Coherence, and that has been fixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cameron,</p>
<p>It was an oversight on my part not to include Coherence, and that has been fixed.</p>
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		<title>By: thesoftwaresimplist</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2007/05/05/using-spaces-with-web-services/comment-page-1/#comment-1629</link>
		<dc:creator>thesoftwaresimplist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 07:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,

You&#039;re absolutely right, of course. However, I wanted to connect with concepts already familiar to .NET developers, to show that they&#039;re already more than half way there. Evangelism, what can I do?

We all know the far reaching architectural wins that can be had by using spaces, and Space-Based Architecture, but we need to help the industry shift their mindset before it can gain broad acceptance.

Maybe then we&#039;ll start seeing a decline in the web service nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right, of course. However, I wanted to connect with concepts already familiar to .NET developers, to show that they&#8217;re already more than half way there. Evangelism, what can I do?</p>
<p>We all know the far reaching architectural wins that can be had by using spaces, and Space-Based Architecture, but we need to help the industry shift their mindset before it can gain broad acceptance.</p>
<p>Maybe then we&#8217;ll start seeing a decline in the web service nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Purdy</title>
		<link>http://www.udidahan.com/2007/05/05/using-spaces-with-web-services/comment-page-1/#comment-1626</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron Purdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 02:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Udi -

Check out Coherence for .NET, which is the original clustered in-memory data management system, and is superior to the other solutions for .NET that you listed.

Peace,

Cameron Purdy
Tangosol, Inc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Udi -</p>
<p>Check out Coherence for .NET, which is the original clustered in-memory data management system, and is superior to the other solutions for .NET that you listed.</p>
<p>Peace,</p>
<p>Cameron Purdy<br />
Tangosol, Inc.</p>
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		<title>By: wpbarr</title>
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		<dc:creator>wpbarr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 20:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, a space is not just a distributed hashtable. That&#039;s only a small part of their implementation. It&#039;s all based on Linda and the concept of tuple spaces; a &quot;bag&quot; into which anything can be transiently stored. The other key components of a space are an intrinsic event system and a ridiculously simple API: put(), get(), take().

I&#039;d really like to see a .NetSpace and then, possibly, all this web services nonsense would just disappear behind the corporate firewall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, a space is not just a distributed hashtable. That&#8217;s only a small part of their implementation. It&#8217;s all based on Linda and the concept of tuple spaces; a &#8220;bag&#8221; into which anything can be transiently stored. The other key components of a space are an intrinsic event system and a ridiculously simple API: put(), get(), take().</p>
<p>I&#8217;d really like to see a .NetSpace and then, possibly, all this web services nonsense would just disappear behind the corporate firewall.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 20:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is fascinating stuff.  I&#039;m going to have to read up on this for down the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is fascinating stuff.  I&#8217;m going to have to read up on this for down the road.</p>
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